To drink or not to drink – Christians and alcohol. Plus … Time magazine wonders if it’s safe to send our daughters to college, and Canada wonders if it’s safe to let Christians educate lawyers. Crazy times indeed…
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Just an unimportant side note, the phrase you were looking for is Delirium Tremens, it is sometimes called DTs, a syndrome caused by withdrawal after severe alcohol abuse…
Did Taylor really make the argument at 35:00 that women are partially responsible for their own rape? That if they wear the wrong clothes or drink too much, getting raped is somehow their punishment for their irresponsible behavior? Sure, there should be a conversation about dress and proper behavior, but that conversation should have nothing to do with affirming the idea that, “Well, you got raped, but it’s kinda your own fault.” The only person responsible for the rape is the rapist. Transferring some of that responsibility to the victim dehumanizes both the victim and the rapist, men and women.
Personally, it’s actually quite insulting to hear that, as a man, I have an uncontrollable urge to have sex with every female I see, and that the only thing that holds me back is a woman’s conservative wardrobe.
patheos.compatheos.comPhil, I’ve listened to a smattering of your podcasts. You often seem reasonable where others are not. However regarding college assaults on women I think you are way off. I would argue that Christian colleges seem to have a lower incidence of assaults because they are under-reported. If a woman has signed a pledge to remain sexually inactive, speaking out and saying she was raped brings judgement on herself in a very real way by college authorities who may fail to see it as assault at all and instead call it a violation of that pledge. It is hard enough for women to speak up about being assaulted at non-Christian colleges; on top of the trauma, they risk being told this horrible thing that happened to them was their fault. It is highly problematic to say that women are to blame (even in part!) for being assaulted based on how they dress. We don’t say jewelry stores are asking to be robbed when display cases are see-through. When someone is shot and killed we don’t ask what they did to invite the gunman’s bullet. The temptation to rape belongs in the same category as other temptations to inflict evil on others. We expect people to behave themselves and when they don’t we label them as criminals. Phil, I know you are willing to expose yourself to differing viewpoints as you have in your past interactions with atheists. I highly recommend reading a blogger named Libby Anne on the patheos site. She’s written a lot about the intersection of purity/modesty culture and rape culture.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2014/03/a-complete-misunderstanding-of-the-term-rape-culture.html
Hopefully inserting that link was successful. That post is just one of many she’s written on this topic.
youtube.comyoutube.comHere’s an amusing video someone created from the Pastor that talked about his smoking hot wife during the Nascar prayer:
“You [the Lord] cause the grass to grow for the livestock and plants for man to cultivate, that he may bring forth food from the earth and wine to gladden the heart of man, oil to make his face shine and bread to strengthen man’s heart.
—Psalms 104:14-15 ESV
Wine is a gift of God intended to gladden the heart of man.
It seems to me that the best Christian response is neither to drink excessively nor teetotal, but to model how to handle alcohol responsibly. I have a glass of wine or beer with a meal now and then, and I leave it at that.
I don’t say this carelessly, either; I lost his father to alcoholism.
Like all good gifts, alcohol can be abused, and it kills some people who let it own them. But then, people die both physically and spiritually by many good things that they mistakenly let own them. This seems to be the human condition. It may be alcoholism for one person, but it’s materialism for another.
Sorry, that should have been “I lost my father to alcoholism.”
DT = delirium tremens….i.e., “the shakes” related to heavy alcohol use
DDT = dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane….an insecticide now banned in the U.S.
Just wanted to clear that up. 🙂
Great show
I have enjoyed listening to your podcast and just wanted to comment on drinking and behavior at colleges. I have a daughter in a Christian college in new England and a son in secular state university. Both of my children are Christians. I have worked with a youth group for 20 years and see the struggles hey go to by wanting to attend a Christian college but do not because of funds . I saw one Christian girl(and I do not use that term lightly) go through this struggle and ended up attending a secular
niversity She ended up drinking and was raped and now has a child who she does not know who the father is. I see the activities at these secular schools and it hurts to see what is happening with the drinking and sleeping around . My daughter made the decision to go to a Christian college because she is studying Kinesiology and wanted to learn from a Christian professor she could have gone to a state university with no debt. My experience I grew up in a youth group went to a secular college. First night there they were a friend of roommate was doing Cocaine. Everyone was sleeping around and drinking . I was not a Christian ..but knew what was right Got caught up in drinking was taken advantage by a guy and then went into a spiral and didn’t care what I did … Woke up one morning guy in my bed looked at a poster on my wall John 8 :12 and said I am so sorry God in turmoil and kicked the guy out that morning a Christian group had a table out and I God brought me to himself and I became clean ..saved. so clean .. I dealt with roomates doing cocaine and was tired of stepping over people passed out on the floor Went to a Christian college and ended up with rebellious roomates the first night I was there they hid a boy in the back room of the apt and that was the worst rebellion at a Christian college. and I was able to grow and met a great Christian guy . Because of my experiences I fear seeing my children and others go off to college. My 2 older children have made right decisions and I have a younger daughter entering high school I am so scared because she is not there spiritually and seeks wrong things. I want to know how secular colleges can control what is going on so young men and women can go to a secular college and not get sucked up into it all.. Looks like it is the same…Just hit my heart hearing about daughters and secular colleges love your podcast and all three of you. Love Whats in the bible and have read Skyes books they have made an impact on me . thanks