After two weeks of modesty mayhem, Phil attempts to wrap-up the discussion once and for all with some thoughts that hit him while he was (immodestly) taking a shower. Plus – that lady in Kentucky who is in jail for… you know… “the gays.” This week on the podcast!
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Kim Davis is refusing to certify a CIVIL DOCUMENT that allows two people to enter into a LEGAL CONTRACT. The license issued by the county clerks office does NOT allow any two people to demand that a minister perform a ceremony that would join them in Holy Matrimony. While my particular denomination – the very liberal UCC – is among those that would gladly marry two persons of the same sex, most churches would not. There is no way that the Apostolic Christian Church, to which Ms. Davis belongs, would be forced to perform such a ceremony. Would any of the three of you support the county clerk’s office, or any government department, having a role in which Christian Denomination is the “right” one? I didn’t think so.
Part of this mess stems from the fact that so few Americans have even a basic understanding of how our government actually works. This is a civil matter, not a religious one. Ms. Davis is welcome to her beliefs, but not to enforce her beliefs in the civil arena. There could not be a more clear cut example than the one Judge Bunning gave. Judge Bunning is a devout Catholic who does not personally believe that Same Sex Marriage is moral. However, as he put it, for Ms. Davis to refuse to issue marriage licenses on the grounds that she would be going against her religious beliefs would be not different than a Catholic clerk asking for proof of an Annulment prior to issuing a license for a second marriage. Of course, a Catholic Parish would not be forced to honor that license, but again this is a license to enter into a Civil contract, not Holy Matrimony. I really don’t understand why folks don’t get that – or don’t want to get that.
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About Kim Davis. Yes the bible says to respect the law of the land but not when it opposes Gods law. Like when Daniel continued to pray regardless of the decree of the king. The king held up the law but Daniel did not obey it because it opposed Gods law. He was also appointed so in the case of Kim I don’t think she should step down she is in a position to publicly spread the gospel. As for her divorces yes divorce is wrong but if there was infidelity she is allowed to divorce. Now I don’t know why she is divorced so many times but there is a concession for it. Most opposers of the bible take things out of context.